After a decade of having only an infant carseat available in North America to go with their popular strollers – Peg Perego is ready to launch a convertible carseat and a dedicated highback booster! These will be called Primo Viaggio SIP Convertible and Viaggio HBB! Hopefully they didn’t spend a lot of money on focus groups to come up with those names, lol. However, they clearly dropped many Euros on the design and development of the seats themselves. With one glaring exception (which we were very verbal about), we were pleasantly surprised and impressed by what we saw. I’m going to break up the offerings by country since the Canadian seats will have different features and in some cases, different weight ranges.
Let’s start with Canada since those Peg models will have some unique features that their American cousins will not, at least not initially.
Canadian Primo Viaggio SIP Convertible: 5-45 RF, 22-65 FF (didn’t check RF/FF height limits for this model – sorry!), other specs and measurements listed below. Not sure when it will be arriving in Canada or the price point. Clearly we’re failing our friends North of the Border. Sorry guys! We’ll follow up when we receive additional info from Peg Perego.
New Canadian Primo Viaggio SIP 30-30 infant seat with anti-rebound handle position. It will be mandatory to use this position in vehicle. Rear-facing to 30 lbs or 30″ tall. This will be one of the few infant seat options rated to 30 lbs in Canada! Made in Italy, not China like every other infant seat on the market in North America. Of course, that’s always reflected in the pricetag!
Not sure if the booster is going to Canada too but we’ll confirm and follow up.
New American Primo Viaggio SIP Convertible (no ARB).
5-45 lbs RF
22-70 lbs FF (49″ ht limit)
FF lockoffs for seatbelt installs but no RF lockoffs
10 harness height settings
17.5″ top harness height
single LATCH strap has dual adjusters
V-shaped top tether strap
S.A.F.E energy management system (shock absorbing foam element)
Available soon (Nov/Dec) $299 ($349 for Leather)
Excerpts from the Primo Viaggio Convertible instruction manual:
*Please note, we incorrectly state the FF wt limits for the Canadian convertible seat in the above video. The limits are what you see posted on the display sign; 5-45 RF, 22-65 FF.
Viaggio High Back Booster: 40-120 lbs with flexible lower LATCH Attachments! 20″ height to belt guide. Base reclines. $179 ($199 for Leather)
We ran out of time before we had a chance to take a closer look at any of the strollers or the US model of the Primo Viaggio 30-30 infant seat. However, we did confirm that the US infant seat models would continue NOT to offer the anti-rebound handle position. We wish they would reconsider their stance on that since we love anti-rebound features here in the US too, even if our federal standards don’t require it (yet).
Last but not least, we pleaded with them to reconsider what we thought was an artificially low 35″ stated height limit for their convertibles in the rear-facing position. The very generous 45 lbs RF weight limit is practically meaningless if they’re going to mandate a standing height limit of 35″ in the rear-facing position. According to the CDC Growth Charts for boys up to 36 months, 35″ tall is somewhere between the 50-75%ile for boys at 24 months. Considering that our goal is to get all kids to at least 2 years old in the rear-facing position, we believe there is room for improvement here. Fingers crossed that they can find a way to either raise the stated height limit or do away with it altogether in favor of a more realistic 1″ rule [on a designated max RF height setting]. If they can manage to do that – the Primo Viaggio convertible has real potential to compete in the current market!
Truthfully, we were so focused on the prototype foonf that I didn’t notice much else. But I did snap a few pics of their displays before we left. Not sure what, if anything, displayed was new. I’ll leave it up to you guys to fill me in! I do know the Paul Frank “Scurvy” oobr was discontinued and therefore not present. I’m bummed about that because it was my favorite Paul Frank print. On the bright side, you now have the option of a Special Limited Edition “Saddle” oobr in top-grain leather. Not my thing personally but I understand that there is, and always has been, a demand for high-end leather carseats. The Saddle oobr was actually really nice! If you just have to have one, better hurry since they’re only making 250 of them. No idea what they’re going to sell for but I suspect that if you have to ask, it’s not the seat for you.
Basically, everything we know about foonf was covered in Darren’s wtf?! blog, the morning we saw it. I don’t have much else to add except my initial impression of what the seat looks like. To me, it has the sleek, clean lines of a Coccoro [on a base] but the head support, steel reinforced frame and fabrics of the Oobr. I’m not sure what I was expecting but I wasn’t expecting a seat with real 3-across potential, which foonf has. That was a surprise but in retrospect – a very pleasant surprise. Judging by how many 3-across threads we see on the forum, I think there’s a huge market for slim, higher-weight RF/FF harnessed seats. Really, even if you had to buy 2 or 3 foonfs (does the plural somehow seem funnier than the singular?), that’s still going to be a lot cheaper than buying a new vehicle. And with a 9 year expiration, if you can pass it down to subsequent children and actually get 9 yrs of use out of it – it breaks down to only $50 per year (slightly more for the Paul Frank fashions).
If you think about it that way, it’s a little easier to digest the pricetag. Still, I understand that foonf is going to be out of reach for many budgets. Maybe clek can offer us a layaway plan? Or better yet, how about a “sponsor a foonf” program where they email you a picture every month of a sad, lonely little pre-production foonf with no one to love it (in your fashion of choice, of course). Once your “sponsorship donations” reach the $450-$500 level and the seat is ready to ship, they send you your precious foonf that you’ve already bonded with over pictures and letters!
All joking aside, I bet most of us thrify mamas could manage to save up enough for a foonf if we had enough time to do it. Step 1: confirm your eggo is preggo. Step 2: start a foonf fund! By the time baby is 6-9 mos old and ready for foonf, I bet you’ll have enough saved for it. Do the math – it’s less than $33/month if you break it up over 14 months. Even if you started saving today, you have 7-8 months before it’s even available. So don’t delay – start today! Yes, I’m totally being an enabler but only because I think this seat is going to ROCK!! And hey, if you really don’t like it or it doesn’t work for your situation, at least you’ll have enough money saved to buy anything else you want, right? 😉
Have a foonf fund already? Send us a picture of it and we’ll post it on this blog! Pics can be sent to carseatblog “at” gmail “dot” com (put foonf fund in the subject line)
ABC clek photos below. In case we haven’t mentioned it already, foonf will be available in all the same fabrics and fashions as big brother, oobr!
This year Diono didn’t have a booth at ABC since they weren’t sure if they would have their new products in time for the show. Luckily, they did manage to have some products ready and they wound up in a big meeting room at the convention center. We popped in to say hi and check out what was new and updated. Unfortunately, the highly anticipated recline angle adjuster for their convertible seats didn’t make it to the show so we have nothing new to report on that accessory at this time. But as soon as we have ANY news to share – we will post it (probably on our carseatblog facebook page).
The new 3-in-1 models (RXT, R120 & R100) offer 2″ more interior room but have the same external dimentions as the original Radian models. New models will also have darker grey shells & darker red belt guides. LATCH is recommended in booster mode! There is a standing height limit of 44″ listed for the rear-facing position (language in manual says 1.5″ of shell above head OR 44″ tall) *BUT* Diono has confirmed for us, in writing, that you can continue to use the seat RF if your kid exceeds 44″ tall but still has more than 1.5″ of shell above his/her head. This is great news and we’re really happy they took this stance. I’m not sure how many kids taller than 44″ still fit RF with more than 1.5″ of shell over their head, but either way we’d like to hear comments from you on this issue.
New Monterey booster with different shoulder belt guide placement. The updated placement of the belt guide should help the seat fit better on kids with narrow shoulders.