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Britax Marathon 70 Review – Part III – Installation

This post was written by Kecia on July 15, 2010
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This Britax Marathon 70 Installation Review is a continuation of review Part I and Part II.  The Britax Marathon 70Boulevard 70, Boulevard 70 CS (Click & Safe), Advocate 70 CS and the Roundabout 55 are the all new Britax convertible carseat line.

Installation comments in 2005 Ford Freestar minivan (middle row captain’s chair) with LATCH:

The Good News – Everything! The seat practically installs itself, both rear-facing or forward-facing, if you’re using the LATCH system.  Unless otherwise specified by your vehicle manufacturer - you can use the lower LATCH anchors until your child reaches 40 lbs, then you must switch to a seatbelt install.  Many vehicle manufacturers allow the LATCH system to be used up to 48 lbs so check your vehicle owners manual for guidance.  Britax recommends that the tether be used at all times.  If using LATCH in a center seating position that doesn’t have dedicated lower anchors - you can use the lower LATCH attachments on the Marathon 70 if the spacing between those lower anchors is 20″ or less and the vehicle manufacturer allows it.  The “Non-Handed” lower anchor attachments on the MA70 allow you to easily switch the connectors from the rear-facing to the forward-facing orientation.  You just slide the straps back and forth along the metal bar and attach them to the lower LATCH anchors! No more “switching” the LATCH connectors like you had to do on the original Marathon model.

Now the big question: How much room does the new MA70 take up in the rear-facing position? 

I’m happy to report that it actually takes up LESS room than the original Marathon model! Here are comparison pics of the Decathlon (similar shell to the original MA) installed in the captain’s chair of my van, then the MA70 installed with the level line level to the ground (the level line is the mid-point between the recommended 30-45 degree angle range allowed), and installed again with a single pool noodle to get it closer to the 45 degree recline that you would want for a newborn.

Needless to say, installation with LATCH in the captain’s chair of my van was as easy as possible and I was happy to see that that much hadn’t changed. The original Britax convertible models were well-known for their ease of installation.  The rear-facing install took a little longer only because I had to find a place to attach the tether connector strap to tether the seat Swedish style.

Since I already had the seat installed at a recline angle appropriate for a newborn – I put my 20″ newborn-sized doll in the seat to see how it looked.  This doll is about the size of a “big” newborn.  Harness fit with the doll (without the newborn insert that can be ordered separately from Britax) wasn’t too bad. I used the body insert pillow that came with the seat but removed the belly pad and the harness strap covers because stuff like that just tends to get in the way with a smaller baby.  You can see that the harness straps were still a bit over the shoulders but the fit was acceptable in my opinion.  If this were a real newborn baby, I would probably recommend removing the rubber HUGS pads on the harness as well. The HUGS pads are optional when the seat is being used rear-facing but they are mandatory for forward-facing use.

Next up, installation in my husband’s 2000 Honda Accord. This vehicle has top tether anchors but no lower LATCH anchors so I had to use the lap/shoulder seatbelt to install the MA70 in this vehicle.  The good news here was that the seat fit just fine in the rear-facing position even with the driver’s seat pushed all the way back.  As long as you don’t need a 45 degree recline for a newborn – there was plenty of room to fit this seat.  The bad news was that the new lock-offs (both rear-facing and forward-facing) gave me a hard time.  You have to clamp them shut while there is still slack in the seatbelt and then attempt to pull all the slack out of the belt thru the closed lock-off.  I found this to be counter-intuitive as well as counter-productive.  Unfortunately, there is no way around this since the lock-off won’t shut if the belt is “pre-tensioned”.  The good news regarding the bad news is that the lock-offs are optional if your vehicle seatbelt can be locked (locking latchplate, switchable retractor, etc).  In the end,  I was able to get better, tighter installs both rear-facing and forward-facing by bypassing the lock-offs and just locking my seatbelt using the switchable retractor.

Here is a video demonstrating rear-facing installation with lap/shoulder seatbelt using the lock-offs:

Reader Comments

I am not surprised it takes up less space front to back rear-facing than the original Marathon since the shell is shorter. The short shell is a problem if you have a tall child and want to keep him rear-facing as long as possible.

#1 
Written By HappyMommy on July 15th, 2010 @ 5:56 pm

I am so impressed that you can tighten down a carseat with one hand while holding a video camera in the other ;) . That’s awesome!

I do have a probably unanswerable question to pose to you, though. Since you pull the slack out of the belt after engaging the lockoffs, do you think the lockoffs will hold the seat tight on a day-to-day basis like they’re supposed to? The purpose of the lockoff/locking clip is to keep the belt tight day-to-day, but if you can pull the belt through it so easily, won’t the belt loosen?

Thanks for the great review!

#2 
Written By Heather (murphydog77) on July 15th, 2010 @ 8:31 pm

Kecia-

Is the shell really that much shorter, or is it that the base is much lower than the high base on the original models?

#3 
Written By CPSDarren on July 16th, 2010 @ 8:36 am

How do you think the seat will fit FF on vehicle seats w/ nonmovable, protruding head restraints?

#4 
Written By Danielle on July 16th, 2010 @ 4:26 pm

Kecia – thanks for all of the information. One thing I am wondering is how much lower it sits when installed FF than the older MA. I know it does sit a little lower, but wondering how much. When we go FF these high-base seats are so difficult for the child to climb into. Thanks for any help!

#5 
Written By Lemonade on July 17th, 2010 @ 7:25 am

HEATHER – good question regarding the lock-offs. Obviously, I can’t make any guarantees but I don’t think that will be a problem. You really have to tug on just the shoulder belt portion of the seatbelt in between the two locked lock-offs and that’s not likely to happen under normal usage. It might be a good idea to switch the retractor (if your vehicle has this feature) just to prevent any possibility of this happening.

DARREN – it does sit a little lower on its base but the actual shell height still appears to be 1″ less than the shell height on my old DC (based on how DS2 fits in both seats).

DANIELLE – I really don’t know how well it may or may not fit in those types of seating positions but I suspect (based on experiences with the original MA model) that there will still be issues because it’s only slightly shorter than the original. FYI – there is a warning on pg 21 of the MA70 manual regarding this issue.

LEMONADE – Check out the pics in Part I of this blog review and you will see how my son fits FF in the DC and in the MA70. There is a difference but it isn’t a big difference.

#6 
Written By Kecia on July 18th, 2010 @ 9:01 pm

Can you comment on this for me, Kecia… The shorter shell in the new MA70 is not the issue since the ‘headrest’ can be moved up to add height, right? It’s the top harness slots that have not changed (for higher height), right? Thanks.

#7 
Written By Tam on July 19th, 2010 @ 11:21 pm

It looks really upright…is it?

#8 
Written By BabyKaykes on July 22nd, 2010 @ 9:27 pm

TAM – the adjustable headrest doesn’t actually buy you any additional height room even though it does extend beyond the shell. The seat will be outgrown by height when the shoulders are above the harness slots on the highest height setting – and that’s about 17″.

BABYKAYKES – The MA70 can be installed anywhere between 30-45 degress depending on what is appropriate for the child. When the line on the base is level with the ground, the seat is at the *mid-point* of that acceptable range (so basically, level line = 37.5 degrees). The slope of your vehicle seat will ultimately determine the exact recline angle that is achieved when the seat is installed. If needed, pool noodle(s) or a rolled up towel can help you get it more reclined.

#9 
Written By Kecia on July 23rd, 2010 @ 6:33 pm

” No more “switching” the LATCH connectors like you had to do on the original Marathon model.”

I’ve never quite understood this, I just turned my older marathon forward facing for my heavy 2yr old. Is there anything I should be doing different? It was manufactured in late 06 if that makes a difference.

#10 
Written By Jillybeans5 on July 25th, 2010 @ 1:35 pm

JILLYBEANS5 – The push-on style lower LATCH connectors have an “up” side – look on the back side of the connector to see this imprinted in the black plastic. The fat part of the connector has to be on top (okay – that sounded really bad but that’s the best way I can describe it – LOL) when you attach it to the lower anchor in your vehicle. Before Britax switched over to the new “non-handed” LATCH connectors, the Marathon, Boulevard, and Wizard models came out of the box with the LATCH connectors properly positioned for a rear-facing installation. There is info on or near pg 28 in the Britax instruction manual on how to switch the LATCH connectors. HTH!

#11 
Written By Kecia on July 26th, 2010 @ 1:18 pm

You comment that the new MA 70 takes less front to back space and it does look like there is more space between it and the front seat. *Was your front seat in the same position for all pics?* This is really important to us because we have a very small back seat and being able to push our front seat back another click would make a huge difference for us. Thanks! This might make me consider this even though I am very unhappy that my child will outgrow it an inch sooner. Will many kids outgrow the height before they go over 35 pounds?

#12 
Written By Athena on July 29th, 2010 @ 9:35 am

is the black portion of the cover soft and plush like the old covers or is it kind of fleece like??? when i got the parkway sg and frontier 85 i was really disappointed that the covers werent that soft or plush like the old britax covers :(

#13 
Written By love-pink on July 29th, 2010 @ 5:24 pm

LOVE-PINK the entire Crimson MA70 cover is a soft, nubby, almost corduroy-like fabic. You can see a close-up of the fabric in my initial blog video review here: http://carseatblog.com/?p=6468

#14 
Written By Kecia on July 29th, 2010 @ 8:32 pm

thanks :) cant wait to get a hold of some of the other colors!

#15 
Written By love-pink on July 30th, 2010 @ 5:37 am

Greetings,

I was wondering how this car seat compares to other car seats. Is it one of the best car seats out there or there others that are better? Britax has a long standing reputation for quality and I am looking to buy a car seat this month and this was my number one choice. Are there better seats out there for the money?

#16 
Written By mone198 on August 8th, 2010 @ 7:37 am

MONE198 – the answer will really depend on what you’re looking for in a new seat and how you define “best car seat”. Ultimately, the “Best” carseat is the one that fits your child, installs tightly in your vehicle(s) and that you can use correctly every single ride. Feel free to visit our forums at http://www.car-seat.org for more info.

#17 
Written By Kecia on August 11th, 2010 @ 10:51 am

Kecia, you rock! You make the best videos ;) . I’m gonna have to talk to D about creating a new category just for you: Kecia Rocks.

#18 
Written By Heather (murphydog77) on August 14th, 2010 @ 4:00 pm

Hi Kecia,
Thank you for these very informative reviews, very helpful, especially for the first time moms who are learning as we go!
Question: I bought the MA65 for my 7 month old son, and we love it, except the crotch strap is really snug for his thunder thighs. (He’s in the 80+ percentile for height and weight). Would the longer crotch strap you mentioned address this problem? I’m so worried about pinching his skin when I snap him in. Thank you!

#19 
Written By Nazneen on August 24th, 2010 @ 11:15 am

NAZNEEN – The extra length on the new, longer crotch strap should help the situation but I can’t say for certain. Do you have a local retailer that carries this seat so you can try it out?

#20 
Written By Kecia on August 25th, 2010 @ 9:43 pm

Awesome information!!!Okay, I think I want to purchase this. I have some questions? Can someone help?
I have a 11week old weighing around 12lbs and she hates the bucket seat.. we are looking to transition right now! We have a small 1998 Nissan Altima. Will this fit in our car and will my infant fit comfortably?? And I noticed the the previous Marathon model had a lot of complaints regarding the “crotch strap”…have they improved this?? My little girl wears cloth diapers which makes her bum extra bulky which concerns me regarding the crotch strap. Help!! Blessings!!! :)

#21 
Written By Angela on August 31st, 2010 @ 3:40 pm

Hi Angela,

You will probably have more luck having your question answered if you post on car-seat.org (the sister site of carseatblog.com ). You don’t have to register, and youll probably have better luck finding someone who has experience with your vehicle!

#22 
Written By CelticLabyrinth on September 1st, 2010 @ 10:32 am

I just found this blog while trying to find out more about the new Britax models. We have a 3 year old Canada-spec Marathon with an upper weight limit of 48lbs. (It was bought during the transition period, and for us the issue is height rather than weight limits.) I assume the model you’re describing here is basically the same as the one for the Canadian market, but with a slightly higher weight limit.

Does this one really rear-face to the same standing height limit as for forward facing?

If so, I think I want to replace our original Marathon with this one for our second child; our first is tall enough that he outgrew rear-facing by height within days of his first birthday, while we’d hoped to keep him rear-facing far longer. Looks like this new design might have solved that issue!

#23 
Written By Melanie on September 1st, 2010 @ 2:26 pm

Hi Angela, the crotch strap issue has been resolved with a 2nd setting that is much farther out. As for your 11 week old, I hope to have the new infant insert in a few days and will post some photos with it in my review at http://www.car-seat.org/showthread.php?t=135236 .

Melanie, the standing height limit is the same, but that is not the only height limit. The seated torso height limit is based on the top of the shell that is actually a bit shorter than the previous model. If you had a 1-year old who outgrew the original Marathon rear-facing by height at 12 months old, that is way off the charts! A model like the Learning Curve True Fit would last longer since it is very tall, even though it is limited to 35 pounds in the USA. The Sunshine Kids Radian is another relatively tall model.

#24 
Written By CPSDarren on September 1st, 2010 @ 2:50 pm

Awesome! Thank you for the reply! I just ordered my Marathon! :)

#25 
Written By Angela on September 1st, 2010 @ 3:10 pm

Yup, he’s tall :) At one year, he outgrew by standing height; he’ll be four at the end of this month, and he’s almost outgrown it by seated height. (We actually had an infant SafeSeat, which it turns out to have the same RF height limit.) He’ll be getting a Frontier as a birthday gift from his grandparents!

Looking here (http://www.britax.ca/car-seats/marathon-65/product-demo), it seems that the seated and standing heights have the same upper maximum for both RF and FF. Is this really correct??

#26 
Written By Melanie on September 1st, 2010 @ 3:24 pm

Oh, and although #2 was a *huge* newborn, he’s turned out to be a little guy. He’s almost 10 months, and still has another harness slot to go on the SafeSeat. Even if we don’t get the new Marathon, he’ll be rear-facing for a while yet!

#27 
Written By Melanie on September 1st, 2010 @ 3:25 pm

You can find some photos with the new infant insert accessory here-
http://www.car-seat.org/showthread.php?t=135236

#28 
Written By CPSDarren on September 13th, 2010 @ 8:26 pm

We just purchased a Marathon 70 and tried installing it in our Subaru Outback (RF) No problem using the latch but we found the lock offs to be nearly impossible… are they any easier in the FF position? Also my 13 month old (22 pounds, 31″) seems too big for the crotch strap. The straps go across his thighs instead of around his hip/waist area. Is this how the straps are supposed to fit? I can’t move the crotch strap out because he is RF. Any thoughts on proper fit of the straps?

#29 
Written By Jessica on September 19th, 2010 @ 9:42 pm

I love reading your blog. I have a question for you. We have a 2007 honda accord and top anchors for the top tether. It seems so awkward with the straps going around the seat, making it hard to put baby (9 months) in and out! is there anywhere else the top tether can go?? like, could we attach on the front seat rail somehow?

#30 
Written By melissa on September 20th, 2010 @ 9:17 am

Hi- There are indeed two options for routing a tether when rear-facing. It sounds like you are using the “Australian” method, where the strap goes across the seat to the tether anchor designated for the vehicle seat, normally used when forward facing. The other method is often called the “Swedish” method, where you route the strap to a seatbelt anchor or rail under the front seats like you said. To do this, you would use the accessory strap included with your child seat. You can see some illustrations on pages 24 & 27 of your manual. You just want to make sure to loop the accessory strap around a fixed piece of metal that is attached securely to the frame and not likely to be pinched or cut if you move the front seats forward or backward.

#31 
Written By CPSDarren on September 20th, 2010 @ 9:31 am

JESSICA – Does the harness fit your child like this? http://carseatblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/018.jpg
If so – that’s considered normal for this seat and perfectly acceptable. As for the lock-offs, I can’t promise that the forward-facing ones will be any easier to use but the good news is that you probably don’t need to use them if your vehicle was made after 1996. As long as your seatbelts lock in some way (check your vehicle owners manual for specific info) you can bypass the lock-offs altogether – just make sure your seatbelt is locked so the carseat doesn’t wiggle loose after it’s been installed tightly.

#32 
Written By Kecia on September 20th, 2010 @ 9:19 pm

Kecia, Thanks for the reply. Yes, that is how it fits him so I guess it is a good fit, just different than his Graco infant seat. Also good to know we can bypass the lock offs completely. Thanks again for all your informative information here!

#33 
Written By Jessica on September 25th, 2010 @ 11:20 am

My 12-month old son is tall and thin (90% height, 50% weight), with a very long torso. I am leaning toward the Marathon 70, but I’m concerned that he will outgrow it by torso length too quickly. Do you think this is a good seat for him, or is there another that might be a better fit?

#34 
Written By Abby on October 7th, 2010 @ 10:32 pm

The Marathon 70 should accomodate most all kids to at least 2 years old rear-facing, then for most kids until age 5 or more forward-facing. Some kids will go much longer. A few of the kids in the tallest percentiles (and all in the torso) will not last quite that long. If your main concern is rear facing torso height, the Learning Curve First Years True Fit line is a good choice and the Sunshine Kids Radian tends to accomodate kids well rear-facing for both height and weight. For front facing, the limits tend to be the top harness slots, and the Marathon 70 is pretty competitive with most other convertibles in that regard.

#35 
Written By CPSDarren on October 8th, 2010 @ 7:53 am

This is the same car I have & was thinking of getting one. Now I know I want it! Thanks for the demo!

#36 
Written By s on October 17th, 2010 @ 8:00 pm

We just purchased the Britax Marathon 70s (12 month old twins) and had them installed rear-facing by a technician. Unfortunately, they are not reclined to the #3 position and now we have to take them back to the technician because I cannot fit my hand in between the car seat and the seat back to recline them because it is so tight. Is this correct? When properly installed rear-facing, is the recline lever unreachable? Thanks.

#37 
Written By SC on October 23rd, 2010 @ 7:09 pm

It is easy to make this mistake, even for a certified technician. You are correct that the seat should be in the most reclined position for rear-facing (position #3). Though it depends on the vehicle, it is quite common for recline mechanisms to be difficult or impossible to use when rear facing on many brands and models of convertible seats. Plus, it usually isn’t necessary to adjust it once you have it correctly installed rear-facing. If you are using LATCH, it might not be too hard to loosen it slightly, just enough to recline it, then tighten the adjuster straps again. Just make sure you haven’t gone past a 45 degree angle!

#38 
Written By CPSDarren on October 23rd, 2010 @ 7:21 pm

Hi!
How do you think this seat would do on an airplane? Also, how easy would it be to take this seat in and out of a variety of vehicles. We have a lot of upcoming travels which will mean using the seat in a variety of vehicles and planes. Also, do you have any recommendations on a seat that would be good for transporting in the ways that I have mentioned?

Thank you so much!

#39 
Written By Leslee on October 24th, 2010 @ 6:12 pm

LESLEE – I don’t have any personal experience installing the new MA70 on a plane but I suspect it will work well – especially in the RF position since it takes up less space than the previous versions front to back and you won’t have the issue of the latchplate sticking into your child’s back. In the past I’ve flown with an original Roundabout and Marathon and never had a problem with either or those. The base on the newer Britax convertible models is bigger but I think it will still fit fine in almost all coach aircraft seats. It’s going to be heavy to lug around but if you’re okay with that – it’s probably a decent option for traveling. The real bonus is how quick and easy it is to get a proper install with this seat in a variety of vehicles – especially if you’re using the LATCH system.
For more info and advice on traveling with kids in airplanes please see:
http://carseatblog.com/6599/airplanes-carseats-and-kids%E2%80%94what-you-need-to-know-pt-1/
http://carseatblog.com/6635/airplanes-carseats-and-kids%e2%80%94what-you-need-to-know-pt-2/
Also check out our “other transaportation” forum at
http://www.car-seat.org/forumdisplay.php?f=36
Hope that helps!

#40 
Written By Kecia on October 25th, 2010 @ 11:12 am

I am happy to announce that the Britax Marathon 70 fits in the center of the back seat of my 2004 Volkswagen Jetta. The front seats are not completely pushed back but they are almost back as far as they will go. They are also reclined a bit. DEFINITELY NOT straight up!

The seat really does install itself….I worked and worked and worked b/c it seemed to easy. I pulled and tugged on everything and wasted a lot of time. Once the tether clips (LATCH system) are loosened a bit, all you do is snap clip into place and tighten the strap. Then, go to the other side and do the same thing.

Make sure you recline the seat before you put it in the car if you are installing in a small car. SO easy!

Would I like more car seats in the back of my Jetta? Absolutely not! I’ll be trading cars in August but for the time being, it fits just fine in the middle of the backseat with the front seats pushed back almost to capacity.

My little fella loves the seat and I do too! Good luck all!

#41 
Written By chi09 on May 3rd, 2011 @ 8:03 pm

oh yeah, thank you kecia for your help! as others have already stated, you rock!

#42 
Written By chi09 on May 3rd, 2011 @ 8:04 pm

You wrote: If using LATCH in a center seating position that doesn’t have dedicated lower anchors – you can use the lower LATCH attachments on the Marathon 70 if the spacing between those lower anchors is 20″ or less and the vehicle manufacturer allows it.

Do you know if this is true for the older Marathon model, 65/CS?

#43 
Written By lucyinthesky on May 11th, 2011 @ 8:51 pm

Britax allows non-standard LATCH installs if the vehicle manufacturer allows it when the anchors are between 11 and 20″. That applies to any of their seats.

#44 
Written By Danielle on May 11th, 2011 @ 10:49 pm

I’m in search of a convertible that does not make my son’s head slump forward when he sleeps. How good is the Marathon 70 with this?

#45 
Written By sleepingbaby on May 16th, 2011 @ 3:06 pm

I would say it is probably good in that regard, but the similar Roundabout 55 is worth a look, too, in case the mechanism for the head restraint has any added thickness. I don’t have both on hand to compare at the moment, though.

#46 
Written By CPSDarren on May 16th, 2011 @ 3:23 pm

So you don’t use tether strap for rear facing? My husband just tried to install our Britax roundabout and he said it doesn’t seem stable enough. Also the only tether strap connector we have is at the top of our backseat. Which is totally a pain! Please help! :)

#47 
Written By Renee on June 9th, 2011 @ 8:22 pm

Hi Renee – you can use the tether connector strap (aka D Ring) that came with your Britax convertible to create an anchor point for tethering the seat in the rear-facing position. You need to find a suitable location underneath one of the front seats to attach it. There should be info in the Roundabout’s instruction manual on how to tether in the RF position. This video should help: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0XqandZ0uo&feature=related

#48 
Written By Kecia on June 11th, 2011 @ 6:17 pm

i noticed that the marathon does not have headwings like many of the other seats i am considering. i like that it is lighter and smaller and cheaper, but safety first – do you think the headwings are important. i also noticed that the marathon was not on your recommended list. is this why? thanks.

#49 
Written By Lorelei on February 11th, 2013 @ 10:52 pm

@Lorelei – you are correct that we recommend the seats with the deeper wings because we’re fans of the enhanced side-impact protection that you get with the Blvd, Pavilion & Advocate models.

#50 
Written By Kecia on February 25th, 2013 @ 11:18 am

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